Wednesday, November 26, 2014

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Central Minnesota Freethinkers is a nonprofit charitable, social, and educational organization created to foster a community of reason. We are atheists, agnostics, humanists, secularists, and freethinkers in and around St. Cloud. We live our lives happily free of dogma and the constraints of religion.

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This is the last in a series of six essays by St. Cloud freethinker Joel Bartos.


Over with
Permanent sleep
Permanent blackout
World where there is no pain permanently
For everybody
No matter what anybody believes



Whatever reality dictates
Literally is as it is
You get what you see
Random chance and probabilities
You cannot defy the laws of science
Nothing supernatural

This is the fifth in a series of six essays by St. Cloud freethinker Joel Bartos.

When two or more people disagree on something, why not find out what reality is dictating on the subject? Do not go by things only in people's heads, things that cannot be justified by scientific machinery and analysis. If you see a tree you know it is a tree because people can see it, go up to it and touch it, and put a machine in front of it to detect it. The tree exists outside people's minds and therefore reality dictates that there is a tree there. Why not do that with everything, and let that determine your belief system. All religions are wrong on many subject areas because reality dictates something totally different than what all religions are saying, regardless of how each religion has a different take on each subject area.

It is possible for most people to be wrong. Just look in history. Before Greek civilization most people thought the Earth was flat. Before Copernicus published his book in 1543 most people though the Earth was at the center of the Universe and that celestial objects revolved around that Earth.

Nowadays most people say they believe in things like God, life after death, angels, miracles, Divinity, etc. when these things are just constructs of the mind. Reality is dictating things much different, and doesn't allow for anything supernatural.

This is the fourth in a series of six essays by St. Cloud freethinker Joel Bartos.

There is no afterlife. Once you are brain dead you are in permanent blackout. 

Everything that makes us conscious is in our brains. There are neurotransmitters, chemical-electrical impulses generated that make all of our thoughts, imagination, comprehension and memory, etc. When we die, all of this chemical-electrical activity comes to a halt. It ceases to exist. How can anything go on?

Your heart can stop, but your brain can still be functioning. You are not dead until a part in the brain stem shuts down and you die at that moment with no recovery.

A lot depends on how one dies. For example one can die suddenly in their sleep. One can get hit by a car, have a heart attack, pneumonia, etc.

Near death experiences involve feeling peace, seeing a tunnel, seeing relatives, etc. Generally a pleasant experience for those you have experienced it. Even an atheist had a near death experience and saw aliens and a red light. But you are not conscious of dreams nor near death experiences until after you start to wake up/regain consciousness. So if you never wake up or regain consciousness, you would never know you had the dream nor near death experience.

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